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1. Solid Sanek (solidsanek@outerheaven.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 11:52:52 UTC Solid Sanek

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   If you don't like the "smart" side of a tv, you can just not connect it to the internetunless I'm missing on something
   • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 11:52:51 UTC lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn

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     @solidsanek i don't really see how they are much worse than just regular computers which everybody connects to the internet.
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   • shp :blobshp: (shpuld@shpposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 11:52:57 UTC shp :blobshp:

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     • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn
     @lain @solidsanek lack of control and bloatware
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   • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn (lain@lain.com)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 11:52:57 UTC lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn

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     @shpuld @solidsanek :roka:
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     • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn
     @lain @solidsanek personally I don't care except adblocking is very hard
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   • a Claes unto himself 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛 (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 11:55:11 UTC a Claes unto himself 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛

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     @solidsanek They connect themselves to the internet if they can. It's a pre-packaged appliance, not a general purpose machine on which you install the OS of your choice.
   • waka (wakarimasen@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 12:29:08 UTC waka

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     • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn

     @lain @solidsanek Since it became public a few years ago that some smart TVs run image recognition analytics on the screen contents, I stopped trusting any kind of display devices that are directly connected to the internet. The argument «just don’t connect it to the internet» doesn’t really work these days either, since some newer models forcibly connect to nearby hotspots or unencrypted networks, with no way to turn that off.

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   • Solid Sanek (solidsanek@outerheaven.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 12:29:12 UTC Solid Sanek

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     • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn
     @wakarimasen @lain I'm willing to believe that but I'm trying to find articles about TVs automatically connecting themselves to nearby hotspots and can't find any so far. All I've found so far is that these TVs can annoy you about accepting to connect themselves to available networks whenever possible though.I completely forgot about the first part tho, I admit
   • waka (wakarimasen@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 12:29:12 UTC waka

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     • lain !Εр8рui8Vw2 ­## Αdmіn

     @solidsanek @lain If I remember correctly, it was Samsung TVs that made it impossible to disable WiFi (and thus prevent them from connecting to open networks). A quick search shows that it’s apparently still possible to do, but hidden in a service menu: https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/tv/disable-wireless-amp-bluetooth/td-p/625115

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   • Mina (meena@cathode.church)'s status on Saturday, 30-Oct-2021 12:34:09 UTC Mina

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     @clacke @solidsanek that sounds like something that would be somewhere between questionable and illegal in the EU

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